Margin Poles.

[Gary]

Are they worth the money? I bought the preston one about 2 years or so ago, and to be fair I have only used it half a dozen times. Generally I won't even set it up if I'm going to be fishing long pole as well. My lads tend to use it more than me! I also look at it this way, I have paid near on 2 grand for a pole that should be able to cope with the type of fishing that I do. Admittedly I would have to consider whether I use it at Drayton and places such as that but in the main do we need margin poles or is it just another way to get us to part with our cash?

[EJAYAR]

I did post a reply to this one but it seems to have disappeared?
I do not have a margin pole but tend to use my old Jurassic for down the edge work. I do however think they are a valid tool. A lot of pleasure anglers tend to target big fish either at short range or in the margins. As a lot of them do not own an expensive pole in the first place it is a good idea to be able to buy a piece of kit specially designed for their type of fishing, they are also very reasonably priced. I would agree that you should keep your 2 grand kit in its holdall at places like Drayton. This is probably the only reason for a matchman to own a margin pole as their normal kit should cope with most other types of fishing.

[EJAYAR]

Oops Most other types of pole fishing of course

[Tonyb]

I have a drag n net which I use if fishing close in with heavy elastic why risk an expensive pole when fishing under your feet

[Gary]

Tony, I agree but shouldn't an expensive pole be up to the job anyway?

[Tonyb]

your right gary especially when a lot of poles are rated to 20 elastic but unfortunately I've seen a few sections break without using elastics that big

[Gary]

Tony, I know. I have said this time and time again, but it seems to me that angling is the only sport that british standards don't apply to! Again if somethging is advertised as being rated to 20 elastics, what does it mean? Does it mean the bore of the top section is wide enough to take a size 20 or does it mean that the pole can take the pressure of a big fish I.e 15lb plus. Are we taken in by the 20 elastic, when infact the pole is not up to the job if a big fish is hooked. Afterall ANY pole can take a 20 if it is cut back enough!!
What is the testing factor.

[CARPDEVIL]

Hi Garry,
I can shed some light on the subject of poles and
margin poles, The main difference is that long poles are made to be fished at full lenth, That is a 13mtr pole is made to be fished at 13mtr and not at 8mtr. You see
poles are desighed to bend from the butt section to the
tip,Just like rods. That is why butt sections have thicker
walls, Allso to stop you crushing the section in your hand
when putting presure on. One of the main problems
we have in this Country everybody wants a pole that can be fished at 16mtr or more, That can be fished at lenth all day long and allso handle 20s elastics Oh i
nearly forgot, And win the Lottery ;D Now back to poles,
In general the intermediate sections of poles are not
desighned to be used as butt sections because the
walls are not thick enough,One of the reasons we break
so many 4s and 5 sections in this Country, Allso why
MAVER had the fighting 4s made
That is why margin poles have evolved, Made with thicker walls to withstand the extra presure exerted with the use of big elastics when fished at shorter lenth,
I could go on for hrs but enough for now.


CARPDEVIL

[Gary]

Carpdevil, welcome to the forum!
I can see where you are coming from on this but I don't totally agree with the principle. In my opinion, and it is only my opinion poles should be able to cope with fish at any length, that is why when we break down sections they generally do. It is very rare these days to see a matchangler playing a fish at the maximum length of his pole unless he has foul hooked one or playing one on really light gear. Most ship back very quickly to top kits to take on the fish. Most poles respond very well to this, albeit one or two sections break, but that in the main is down to the anglers rather than the pole. The wall thicknes of a butt section is thicker but I think this is to cope with the weight of the pole at its maximum length and the action of the 'strike' at that distance. Admitedly margin poles do have thicker but also heavier sections and this in itself makes them stronger, but what is likely to give first, the line or the pole? I'm not an expert just offering food for thought. . .

[matttttt]

I bought the edge too Gary. I'm also wondering if it was a waste of money after hearing that heavy laccies aren't the way to go! Does any1 else think it's a waste of money?

[Paulscatt]

Matt advice is nice to get but sometimes its better to try these things out for yourself. Maybe a few sessions with ur new pole would be better than blindly following someones post on here. Try it & then decide ;D ;D ;D

[Pete M]

I've got a Mulletto Master,which is rigged with a pretty tight 20,(not with the Muletto system)
I use it for taking carp from tight reedy margin swims.....very much hit and heave.
To be honest i wouldn't like to attempt this with my main pole,a Maver Retribution.

[matttttt]

Yes I'll probably use it for heaving the carp out of swims when necessary. Don't know many venues where you have to do that often tho!

[CARPDEVIL]

Matt
Stop worrying wether youve wasted money on margin
pole because you havent i will tell you why on saturday,

BAZ

[matttttt]

Ok cheers
Looking forward 2 it.